Gerald and Phoebe!

I really would love to see an episode this season that officially acknowledges that Gerald and Phoebe like each other. We all know they do and I love this ship to pieces. I feel like there were a few hints throughout the entire first five seasons but nothing entirely concrete. Perhaps maybe Phoebe could confess to Helga in secret that she has liked Gerald for a pretty long time. Gerald could perhaps say something to Arnold about his feelings for Phoebe. Maybe Arnold and Helga could kinda scheme together to get them to go out? Just throwing out ideas here. Someone let me know if you like this premise and think it could go somewhere.

I think it would be too directly for Hey Arnold style.

HA! episodes never have shipping as the central plotline of an episode. They tell about something else with shipping being more or less important supporting line. Probably that's why HA! is more popular than shows where the subject of romantic feelings is addressed directly (like As Told by Ginger).

If you want to tell a Phoebe-Gerald story, you should think up a situation/story it would be included into.

Right right, I see what you're saying. Like some kind of project they have to work on like the characters taking care of the eggs in "Egg Story" for instance. Like, what if Gerald was having trouble in a school subject that Phoebe's really good at and she could help him? Or maybe Phoebe somehow gets involved in something Gerald is good at and must enlist his help? Something like that?

1) I agree with Hellerick that setting up Phoebe and Gerald canonically is probably not the best idea.

2) I love Phoebe/Gerald. But what I like best about it is that it's not Helga/Arnold. It isn't big or bold or full of secret confessions and poems and confusion. It's just two people who like each other very much and, when the opportunity arises, have fun enjoying one another's presence. If you're going to write a Phoebe/Gerald centric episode, you need to keep this in mind.

Maybe Phoebe should enlist "Big Sis - Lil Sis" program and 'adopt' Timberly. While trying to resolve the issues between the siblings she could have some bonding moments with Gerald.

It should be noted though, that even though Gerald obviously likes Phoebe, it's likely that he would not want to admit it and make it known to public, because he would think that having fallen for one particular girl is too uncool.

I love the "Big Sis - Lil Sis" program idea alot! And you're very right now that I think about it. It would indeed be unlikely that Gerald would admit it to the public.

I like it myself, you know! Phoebe likes Gerald, but she has to be loyal to her lil sis. It could be an interesting conflict of interests.

I completely agree! I would love to see an episode like this! Also, when times get too overwhelming, one or both of them might ask for Arnold's advice. Afterall, he is the main character. He would have to get some screen time. Excuse me, comic-panel time.

So, Phoebe gets engaged into the program (there should be a reason of some kind for that). Probably at first reluctantly, but when she learns that she can 'adopt' Timberly (Mrs. Johanssen thinks her daughter is too much of a tomboy and needs a female model) she quickly takes the opportunity (denying to everyone, including herself, that she has an ulterior motive).

Timberly is ecstatic about having a sister, Phoebe enjoys being a "dominant friend" for a change too.

Phoebe learns about complications of the life in the Johanssens' house. During one of the arguments, Phoebe sticks with her new sister, and instead of spending time with the boy she likes, she ends up quarreling with him for the very first time.

In the school, Phoebe and Gerald declare to everyone that they can't stand each other. Arnold and Helga know too well that it is not true.

I love the "Big sis - Lil' sis" program idea!
With a few cute Gerald-Phoebe moments, but no confessions. So in the end, not much changed (so it won't conflict with new episodes or the movie), but they do get closer.

I don't think they should tell their classmates that they can't stand each other.. They both are honest (most of the time ^^ ) and they walked hand in hand before, and went to parties together.. So, I think Gerald would more likely say something like 'I'm way too cool for stuff like that, man!' He won't deny that he likes her.

I think that annoyed and angry Phoebe is too cute to miss it

One important thing is that the episode still should be about Gerald and Timberly, and about Phoebe and Timberly. Gerald-Phoebe line should remain a supporting line, despite being obviously more interesting for the fans. It would be cool not to mention (at least aloud) Phoebe and Gerald liking each other at all. Let's tease everyone!

1) I think she should take on the Big Sis/Lil Sis because it's a good opportunity, but also because she doesn't have siblings and has always wondered about it. Also, maybe she had expected to get a Big Sis, but ends up being a Big Sis herself?

2) Mrs. Johannson doesn't seem like the type that would want to change her children. She really seems to love and respect their differences. Maybe she signs Timberly up, because Gerald and Jamie-o don't really pay her much attention and she's lonely?

3) The Johannson house isn't really that complicated. It's normal family dysfunction. Phoebe might feel out of place with three kids running about like wild things, but there's nothing inherently wrong with the Johannsons (this was the point of Gerald Moves Out).

4) I do agree that they should have a disagreement at some point. Possibly Gerald picking on Timberly, thinking that she likes it (SHE DOES NOT) and Phoebe's like: "GERALD I THINK YOU ARE BEING REALLY MEAN." and Gerald getting defensive because Timberly is HIS little sister.

5) I don't think they'd say anything about resenting each other at the end. If anything, they'd find a way to work it out and resolve their different opinions on how to be a sibling to Timberly. I'd love a scene with both of them with their respective BFFs (or maybe switched around? Gerald talks to Helga and Phoebe talks to Arnold?) about their argument:

Gerald: "Look, Phoebe is cool and all, but I hate how she coddles Tim. My sister is not some precious gem of youth and learning or whatever Phoebe keeps saying. She's a twerp. She KNOWS she's a twerp. She enjoys BEING a twerp."

Gerald: "And now she's got me fighting with Phoebe."

Helga: "Look, Gerald-o. Here's the thing: you're being a jerk. Timberly wouldn't be in that program if she didn't want to be and just because Phoebe can see something more in your sister than you can, doesn't make her wrong. So lay off of her or you'll be answering to me."


Phoebe: "Maybe I should just give up. I'm a terrible big sister anyway. What do I know about being a good sibling anyway?"

Arnold: "I think you know a lot Phoebe. I'm like you. I don't have any siblings and I've always wondered about it. What makes someone a good brother or sister - I think it's just... love. If you care about them and worry about them and try and make them smile now and then. That's it. And that's what you've been doing with Timberly, Phoebe. You've been supporting her and letting her be more than just the pest that Gerald and Jamie-o will never stop seeing her as. I think Gerald is wrong. You're being a really great sister, Phoebe."


(obviously that dialogue is kind of horrendous, but you can change it. Or flip it so Helga talks to Phoebe and Arnold talks to Gerald.)

Squirreltamer wrote:

Gerald: "Look, Phoebe is cool and all, but I hate how she coddles Tim. My sister is not some precious gem of youth and learning or whatever Phoebe keeps saying. She's a twerp. She KNOWS she's a twerp. She enjoys BEING a twerp."

Gerald: "And now she's got me fighting with Phoebe."

Helga: "Look, Gerald-o. Here's the thing: you're being a jerk. Timberly wouldn't be in that program if she didn't want to be and just because Phoebe can see something more in your sister than you can, doesn't make her wrong. So lay off of her or you'll be answering to me."

Haha! This one's cute ^^ It is so Helga. Plus she just defended her best friend so it shows that she actually cares about Phoebe (hope that made sense).

But honestly, I can only see Phoebe going to Arnold for help but not Gerald. Unless, Arnold and Helga sees Gerald and Phoebe being all sad and stuff, they met (by pure coincidence!) then told each other about how their seeing thier best friends being all upset. So, Arnold decided that he'd talk to Phoebe while Helga talked to Gerald to see if they can solve the problem. And they did! Yayyy

I figured it'd be a random meet up between H/G and A/P. With them being like:

"What's eating you?" and "You okay, Phoebe?"

I don't think there should be any interaction between Helga and Arnold really.

maybe she had expected to get a Big Sis, but ends up being a Big Sis herself — I like the idea. She could insist on switching her role after discovering this opportunity. But still I feel that it should not be Phoebe's idea to join the program in the first place.

The Johannson house isn't really that complicated. It's normal family dysfunction. — I'm cool with the Johanssens family, but Gerald is not. He often has quarrels with his family members, and it's likely that Phoebe will witness one of them, and consequently will be involved into it.

Mrs. Johannson doesn't seem like the type that would want to change her children — Yeah, but after a mischief of some kind, she could decide that Timberly needs a good girl example.

I don't think they'd say anything about resenting each other at the end — I did not mean it to be the end. I meant it to be the middle. A problem to be overcome.

And yes, Helga-Arnold interaction is not necessary here.

I think it would make more sense if the "big sis little sis" program was a P.S. 118 event, because typically, the big sis is someone who is an adult, and Phoebe is only 9/10. So that could excuse why Ms. Johannson would stick Timberly in a big sis little sis program, because I don't really see Timberly as a tomboy (she once wore a fairy costume). I think Timberly and Phoebe would make an interesting pair. I dunno, whenever I think of Timberly as being in a big/little sis program, I always thought of her being paired up with Lila (b/c of the episode Timberly loves Arnold). So maybe a "mismatch" of Lila not getting the little sis she wants (i.e. Timberly)? But either way, I think Lila would act pretty sweet / be a good sport even if she didn't get the little sis she wanted in the program. (If you want to include other people in the program... but they won't be the main focus).

I always liked the non-verbal communication that exists between Phoebe and Gerald. So if they ever got into a fight, they would probably say "I'm mad at you" in a non-verbal way, like avoiding each other or acting sour/depressed. No actual words saying that they're mad at each other, because I think that the two of them can understand each other enough without actually having to say something.

Anyhoo, this idea is looking pretty good.

Edit: Oh yeah, I forgot. I think the Helga and Gerald interaction would make for some good Helga/Gerald bonding, even it's little.