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Post by Iffy Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:51 pm

I was roaming through squirreltamers gallery and noticed that most of her fifth grade Helga pictures have earrings in them.

what if we make a comic about her getting her ears peirced for the first time. I don't know if someone already brought it up, but I think it would be neat.

http://fc08.deviantart.com/fs36/f/2008/288/c/3/HA___Helga_G__Pataki_by_SquirrelTamer.jpg


what do you guys think?
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Post by Saphine Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:11 am

Hmmm, maybe someone double-dog-dared her to do it? Or maybe she lost some kind of bet (although, kids shouldn't be betting in the fifth grade, lol).

Maybe she could pretend she's not scared, but in truth, is very much so. And so, in the entire duration of the episode, perhaps we could describe how Helga avoids getting her ears pierced by making excuses and hiding and whatnot.

Eventually, maybe she could get her ears pierced, maybe not. If she does, though, I think it'd be nice if Arnold comments on how it looks nice, and she could swoon and -- the end.

LoL.
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Post by Iffy Thu Sep 24, 2009 4:53 pm

Eventually, maybe she could get her ears pierced, maybe not. If she does, though, I think it'd be nice if Arnold comments on how it looks nice, and she could swoon and -- the end.

Ha ha its' funny you should mention that, I actually drew a picture in my english class last night. I'll post it soon.
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Post by acemcjace169 Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:11 pm

What if it wasn't going to be her choice? What if Big Bob or Miriam try to get Helga to do it because Olga had hers pierced when she was her age or something like that?

I wonder if there's any way we can bring Rhonda into the picture, even for a little bit. She is the only one of students that I have seen with pierced ears and that was only in the "April Fool's Day" episode.

Maybe Rhonda could be the one who tells Helga that she's to scared to do it, but if this was a secret that Helga didn't want to get out, Rhonda could find out later in the episode that she's scared to do it. The rest of the class would be surprised maybe because a part of Helga's image is that she is someone who isn't afraid of anything...somewhat.

Maybe Arnold could be the one who figures it out and the rest of the class figures out by one of the students who overhears Arnold telling Helga, "It's okay to be scared."

If Helga asks Arnold his opinion of ear rings, he would probably say something like, "That depends on the person wearing them? If someone wants to wear them then that's great and if not that's great too." That's only if Helga is afraid to get her ears pierced and wants to keep it a secret.

While at lunch, Helga could tell Phoebe her situation (without telling her secret) with a couple of the other girls sitting at the same table. This is a possible way for Helga's situation to become public.

Does any of this help?
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Post by Iffy Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:15 pm

what if Helga is afraid of needles. I remember when I first got my ears peirced, (which was in November last year, embarrassingly enough) I was terrified because I'm terrfied of needles.

We know Helga is afraid of rats, but she could also be afraid of needles.
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Post by acemcjace169 Thu Sep 24, 2009 6:36 pm

Iffy wrote:what if Helga is afraid of needles. I remember when I first got my ears peirced, (which was in November last year, embarrassingly enough) I was terrified because I'm terrfied of needles.

We know Helga is afraid of rats, but she could also be afraid of needles.

I actually thought about that, but then I remembered the episodes when Helga actually uses a needle like in "Helga's Masquerade" when she makes a dress just like Lila's and at the end of "Helga and the Nanny" when she starts doing needle point. I didn't know if it was a big deal or not.

Maybe there's no harm in overlooking this, but just in case, why don't we make her fear of needles develop in this episode? What if she's not scared at first and her fear doesn't kick in until after Rhonda or someone says, "You're not scared are you?" After that, maybe Helga could have a nightmare about needles which causes her to be afraid of them or just afraid of sharp things in general.
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Post by Iffy Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:23 pm

acemcjace169 wrote:
Iffy wrote:what if Helga is afraid of needles. I remember when I first got my ears peirced, (which was in November last year, embarrassingly enough) I was terrified because I'm terrfied of needles.

We know Helga is afraid of rats, but she could also be afraid of needles.

I actually thought about that, but then I remembered the episodes when Helga actually uses a needle like in "Helga's Masquerade" when she makes a dress just like Lila's and at the end of "Helga and the Nanny" when she starts doing needle point. I didn't know if it was a big deal or not.

Maybe there's no harm in overlooking this, but just in case, why don't we make her fear of needles develop in this episode? What if she's not scared at first and her fear doesn't kick in until after Rhonda or someone says, "You're not scared are you?" After that, maybe Helga could have a nightmare about needles which causes her to be afraid of them or just afraid of sharp things in general.

I mean of like the needle gun and shots and stuff.
I'm terrified of those types of needles, but I make my own clothes by hand with a needle (those don't terrify me). Although I'm cool with her fear of needles developing in this.
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Post by funnybones021 Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:26 pm

acemcjace169 wrote:I actually thought about that, but then I remembered the episodes when Helga actually uses a needle like in "Helga's Masquerade" when she makes a dress just like Lila's and at the end of "Helga and the Nanny" when she starts doing needle point. I didn't know if it was a big deal or not.
You could probably just ignore that. My job always has me working with hypodermic needles, and I don't have a problem with it...but as soon as I have to go to the doctor for a shot or something I suddenly develop a needle phobia.

On the other hand, I really like the idea Helga having a nightmare. It would probably make this episode a little more interesting.

So I guess my point is, if the episode runs too long with the dream, then I don't see any harm in making Helga afraid of needles despite the incident in "Helga's Masquerade" without much explanation. But, if you have time, I definitely like the dream idea.
lol, did that make sense or was it too confusing? (sorry if it was).
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Post by Iffy Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:32 pm

How would the dream go though... I think her getting poked by the needled repeatedly wouldn't be very PG ish... I can't possibly think of how it would go.
I love the idea of the dream though...

What else could cause her fear of needles? My fear was when I was around 6 and I was in the hospital for bronchitis and the doctors kept literally stabbing me with them. (the doctors up in northern Maine are really unprofessional) and I had the biggest bruises on my wrists (where they stuck the IVs in) and the rest of my arms.

Maybe hearing all the horror stories about them getting infected would scare her or something or the fear of it hurting a lot maybe she has a low tolerance for pain (although I don't see how that would happen because she's the tough one).
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Post by tendra91 Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:53 pm

lol I always thought that Helga would only doll herself up (even if it was something minor like ear piercings) until after she got hooked up with Arnold. But then again, we've seen Helga in an array of dresses (remember that time she wore Olga's dress in "Olga comes home"?), so it's plausible.

The only reason I can see Helga not wanting to get ear piercings is because of insecurity issues. Like, "I don't feel pretty enough for earings" or "earings will make me look like a wuss or something unless I'm piercing elsewhere like my nose".

But mostly I see her not wanting to pierce her earings because she "doesn't feel pretty enough" (i.e. she would only doll herself for Arnold, and since she's a bit unsure about Arnold's feelings (remember that he hasn't confessed yet...), she wouldn't go ahead with the piercing).

But I could totally see her getting peer pressured into going to an ear piercing store (alone) and come back with a piercing on her nose to show the other kids, just to show she's tough. But when all the other kids are gone, she removes the nose piercing, which just turns out to be one of those "clip-on" nose earings, and then slightly fingers her ears to show that she actually did pierce her ears. She's not going to wear earrings yet (because her relationship w/ Arnold isn't confirmed), but she'll pierce them "just in case they get together". That kind of thing.
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Post by acemcjace169 Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:15 pm

Iffy wrote:How would the dream go though... I think her getting poked by the needled repeatedly wouldn't be very PG ish... I can't possibly think of how it would go.

Maybe in this nightmare, Helga only sees the needles and wakes up just before getting stuck. (This reminds me of the episode "Sid and Germs." lol)

tendra91 wrote:lol I always thought that Helga would only doll herself up (even if it was something minor like ear piercings) until after she got hooked up with Arnold. But then again, we've seen Helga in an array of dresses (remember that time she wore Olga's dress in "Olga comes home"?), so it's plausible.

The only reason I can see Helga not wanting to get ear piercings is because of insecurity issues. Like, "I don't feel pretty enough for earings" or "earings will make me look like a wuss or something unless I'm piercing elsewhere like my nose".

But mostly I see her not wanting to pierce her earings because she "doesn't feel pretty enough" (i.e. she would only doll herself for Arnold, and since she's a bit unsure about Arnold's feelings (remember that he hasn't confessed yet...), she wouldn't go ahead with the piercing).

I agree. I personally can't see Helga going through with it either though I'm open to the idea. The peer pressure thing could work because everyone knows about Helga's sister. If they heard Helga wasn't getting her ears pierced when Olga did, they would want her to be like Olga. I thought this would help the "peer pressure" idea.

tendra91 wrote:But I could totally see her getting peer pressured into going to an ear piercing store (alone) and come back with a piercing on her nose to show the other kids, just to show she's tough. But when all the other kids are gone, she removes the nose piercing, which just turns out to be one of those "clip-on" nose earings, and then slightly fingers her ears to show that she actually did pierce her ears. She's not going to wear earrings yet (because her relationship w/ Arnold isn't confirmed), but she'll pierce them "just in case they get together". That kind of thing.

I thought about clip-ons too. It also made me think about Rhonda so called "pierced ears." The "April Fool's Day" episode was the only one where Rhonda wore ear rings. After thinking about that, I wondered if it was possible that they were just clip-ons. Does Rhonda have pierced ears?

Anyway, I was wondering what roll Helga's parents would play. Do they want her to get them pierced to be like Olga or Are they against it? now that I think about it, wouldn't Big Bob being against it be a good reason for Helga to want to go through with it?
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Post by funnybones021 Thu Sep 24, 2009 11:30 pm

acemcjace169 wrote:Anyway, I was wondering what roll Helga's parents would play. Do they want her to get them pierced to be like Olga or Are they against it? now that I think about it, wouldn't Big Bob being against it be a good reason for Helga to want to go through with it?
I think that we should avoid an episode where Helga (or any other girl) wants to get a piercing, but her parent(s) won't let her do it.
That leads to too much angsty, teenage drama and it's too cliche.
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Post by Saphine Fri Sep 25, 2009 3:23 am

You know, I had a friend in the past who was terrified of getting her ears pierced. She always used the excuses like, "If God wanted holes in my ears, he would have put them there!" and "I don't want to alter my au natural body!"

I pestered her about it quite a bit, mostly because I thought her excuses were entertaining, but eventually I found out that she was scared of "the act of getting one's ears pierced." Apparently someone had told her that piercings can have nasty effects, especially if it gets infected, and firmly believed that her earlobes would rot. LOL. "WHAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG? MY EARS WILL FALL OFF!"

Anyway, enough off-tangent talk. Back to work!

Warning: Long post ahead!

Personally, I don't know if parents would force their kids to get their ears pierced (unless they were too young to comprehend what was being done to them, like me — I got my ears pierced when I was only one years old). But I can see where Miriam could encourage it. I think Bob, on the other hand, would probably ramble on about how much it would cost. Olga would probably tell Helga this elaborate story of "when I was your age" (not that she's old, or anything) and get giddy with the idea that Helga would possibly have something in common with her.

That said, I really like the Rhonda idea. After all, she is the Queen of All Things Feminine. Maybe we could start off an episode with Rhonda showing off some new earrings she got, and Helga could probably make a rude comment, as she so often does. But we all know Rhonda is no push-over, so I can see her retorting back to Helga's comment. From there, I can see Rhonda telling Helga that she probably doesn't want to get her ears pierced because she's scared. Helga disagrees, but eventually, Rhonda could double-dog-dare her to get her ears pierced, or something, and at this point, Helga is fuming and isn't thinking straight, so she says she'll do it.

You know how there are times when you agree to do something without really thinking about it? Only to realize later that you really, really don't want to do it anymore? I think that could be the case with Helga.

I don't think Helga should be afraid of getting her ears pierced, at first, but develop a fear for it after she agrees. In fact, after she agrees to get her ears pierced, I think Rhonda could start telling her gruesome tales of ear piercing. That "one in every three people have their ear rot and fall off," or something, LOL. This would get Helga paranoid (though she would try not to show it, of course). It would be funny if she goes to Phoebe for advice only to have Phoebe give her real facts that are just as bleak?

So anyway, the majority of the episode could entail Helga avoiding Rhonda and the rest of her taunting classmates (who witnessed the whole dare and are now hounding Helga for it).

Now, towards the end of the story, I like the idea that Arnold realizes that she's worried about getting her ears pierced (like someone suggested). Being the nice guy he is, he probably tries to comfort her (like any friend would) and tells her that it would probably look just fine, maybe even nice, though he thinks she'd look fine without them, too.

Of course, Arnold didn't comfort Helga because he loves her or anything — it should just be a friendly thing — but his words mean a lot to Helga, nonetheless, and if Helga decides to get her ears pierced after her conversation with Arnold, she would probably do it because she knows Arnold would like them either way. OR, if she decides not to get them, she probably chose not to because she knows Arnold likes her just the way she is.
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Post by acemcjace169 Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:32 am

Saphine wrote:You know, I had a friend in the past who was terrified of getting her ears pierced. She always used the excuses like, "If God wanted holes in my ears, he would have put them there!" and "I don't want to alter my au natural body!"

I pestered her about it quite a bit, mostly because I thought her excuses were entertaining, but eventually I found out that she was scared of "the act of getting one's ears pierced." Apparently someone had told her that piercings can have nasty effects, especially if it gets infected, and firmly believed that her earlobes would rot. LOL. "WHAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG? MY EARS WILL FALL OFF!"

Anyway, enough off-tangent talk. Back to work!

Warning: Long post ahead!

Personally, I don't know if parents would force their kids to get their ears pierced (unless they were too young to comprehend what was being done to them, like me — I got my ears pierced when I was only one years old). But I can see where Miriam could encourage it. I think Bob, on the other hand, would probably ramble on about how much it would cost. Olga would probably tell Helga this elaborate story of "when I was your age" (not that she's old, or anything) and get giddy with the idea that Helga would possibly have something in common with her.

That said, I really like the Rhonda idea. After all, she is the Queen of All Things Feminine. Maybe we could start off an episode with Rhonda showing off some new earrings she got, and Helga could probably make a rude comment, as she so often does. But we all know Rhonda is no push-over, so I can see her retorting back to Helga's comment. From there, I can see Rhonda telling Helga that she probably doesn't want to get her ears pierced because she's scared. Helga disagrees, but eventually, Rhonda could double-dog-dare her to get her ears pierced, or something, and at this point, Helga is fuming and isn't thinking straight, so she says she'll do it.

You know how there are times when you agree to do something without really thinking about it? Only to realize later that you really, really don't want to do it anymore? I think that could be the case with Helga.

I don't think Helga should be afraid of getting her ears pierced, at first, but develop a fear for it after she agrees. In fact, after she agrees to get her ears pierced, I think Rhonda could start telling her gruesome tales of ear piercing. That "one in every three people have their ear rot and fall off," or something, LOL. This would get Helga paranoid (though she would try not to show it, of course). It would be funny if she goes to Phoebe for advice only to have Phoebe give her real facts that are just as bleak?

So anyway, the majority of the episode could entail Helga avoiding Rhonda and the rest of her taunting classmates (who witnessed the whole dare and are now hounding Helga for it).

Now, towards the end of the story, I like the idea that Arnold realizes that she's worried about getting her ears pierced (like someone suggested). Being the nice guy he is, he probably tries to comfort her (like any friend would) and tells her that it would probably look just fine, maybe even nice, though he thinks she'd look fine without them, too.

Of course, Arnold didn't comfort Helga because he loves her or anything — it should just be a friendly thing — but his words mean a lot to Helga, nonetheless, and if Helga decides to get her ears pierced after her conversation with Arnold, she would probably do it because she knows Arnold would like them either way. OR, if she decides not to get them, she probably chose not to because she knows Arnold likes her just the way she is.

I agree...I think... (Lol)
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Post by Saphine Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:36 pm

Just throwing ideas out there, albeit, it was a long one. LOL. D:
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Post by Iffy Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:00 pm

You know, I had a friend in the past who was terrified of getting her ears pierced. She always used the excuses like, "If God wanted holes in my ears, he would have put them there!" and "I don't want to alter my au natural body!"

I pestered her about it quite a bit, mostly because I thought her excuses were entertaining, but eventually I found out that she was scared of "the act of getting one's ears pierced." Apparently someone had told her that piercings can have nasty effects, especially if it gets infected, and firmly believed that her earlobes would rot. LOL. "WHAT IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG? MY EARS WILL FALL OFF!"

Omg... my grandfather said that about god too...
and I used those excuses as well when all my friends had their ears pierced, and I didn't.


I don't think Helga should be afraid of getting her ears pierced, at first, but develop a fear for it after she agrees. In fact, after she agrees to get her ears pierced, I think Rhonda could start telling her gruesome tales of ear piercing. That "one in every three people have their ear rot and fall off," or something, LOL. This would get Helga paranoid (though she would try not to show it, of course). It would be funny if she goes to Phoebe for advice only to have Phoebe give her real facts that are just as bleak?

So anyway, the majority of the episode could entail Helga avoiding Rhonda and the rest of her taunting classmates (who witnessed the whole dare and are now hounding Helga for it).

Now, towards the end of the story, I like the idea that Arnold realizes that she's worried about getting her ears pierced (like someone suggested). Being the nice guy he is, he probably tries to comfort her (like any friend would) and tells her that it would probably look just fine, maybe even nice, though he thinks she'd look fine without them, too.

Of course, Arnold didn't comfort Helga because he loves her or anything — it should just be a friendly thing — but his words mean a lot to Helga, nonetheless, and if Helga decides to get her ears pierced after her conversation with Arnold, she would probably do it because she knows Arnold would like them either way. OR, if she decides not to get them, she probably chose not to because she knows Arnold likes her just the way she is.

this comic takes place after April Fools, so it's past Helga's birthday... what if... as a late birthday present for her "baby Sister" Olga takes her to get her ears pierced. Helga of course doesn't want to, but she remembers what you said above about Rhonda and the other kids taunting her. and the nightmare.
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